lowering <span class="highlight">tyre</span> <span class="highlight">pressures</span>......

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 14:46
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Hi All,
When lowering tyre pressures should you take into account the increase in pressure that occurs after normal driving.

Example: 32psi cold, drive out of the city and reach 4X4 track. Tyre pressures now read about 36-37psi or thereabouts. Do I drop them to 24 psi (hot) which is 20psi (cold) or straight to 20 psi (hot) which may really be 16 psi on a cold tyre.

In all the mags I have read I cannot seem to recall any clarification on this.

Thanks,
Rob
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 15:09

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 15:09
Hi Rob

If your doing slow track work then your tyres will tend to cool down so your adjust closer to your target pressure.

i.e. if initially 32 and you wish 20 then drop current reading by 12 (32-20)

if your not sure of initial pressure then drop to 4 psi above target i.e. 24 on basis that they will cool down a bit.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 15:17

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 15:17
Meant to add that I assume that they cool down about 1/2 way.

So if target is 20 and they are hot I drop to 22psi

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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 15:30

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 15:30
a couple of psi isn't going to make that much difference really.

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Reply By: Leroy - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 15:10

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 15:10
Generally all measurements that are referred to are 'hot' measurements. So 24psi hot for dirt as a rough guide or maybe drop to 20psi if it's starting to get really muddy. There's a bit of trial and error in it as some tyres bag more than others when you air down.

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Reply By: PeterInSA - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 17:43

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 17:43
Re Tyre pressure, I have never have the pressure below 30psi on the Bridgestone 693's on my Cruiser, but after talking to friend who did Cape York in his Prado was advised to lower the pressure to 16psi and had no problems, this is what I will seriously consider next time I am in the bush on rough tracks.

I also though that using the higher pressure the wide tyres would be less prone to staking on the walls and rock fractures on the tread. My Prado friends advisor a bush mechanic rejects this view.

Towing a large Van on the black top I have reduced tyre pressure from 50 to 40 on the back and the front remains at 30, Ditto on the tandem van from 50 to 40. I suppose I have been sucked in reading on the tyre the maximum load is at the higher pressure and looked at this as a safety issue.

Of course the higher pressure provide less rolling resistance , less load on the engine, but especially in the van more vibration on rough roads. How low do you go with Van tyres on rough tracks 20psi?

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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 19:47

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 19:47
Hi Peter,

I am no expert but I have a single axle van (pretty heavy at 2.5 tonne mostly...sometimes above) and normally run at 55 or 60psi on the black top with no probs. Recently took the van over 1000km on dirt and dropped the van tyres to 40psi, with good results. No punctures, blowouts or messed up van internally. I think it really depends on your tyres and your driving speed as to what pressures to run in the van. My outlook was at my loads on a single axle, I did not want to go too low, if I had a tandem axle I would be tempted to go a little lower but not too much. My van tyres are Firestone CV3000 and not at all an "offroad tyre" but they coped fine.

Car tyres on the same trip were set at 28psi with good results also.

Cheers, Trevor.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 17:58

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 17:58
Tyres warm up when 4wding too, depends on what you're up to.

If you lower your pressures to say 20psi on a freezing cold Simpson desert morning, you'll find they'll be up to 25-26 by lunchtime, and you'll need to let more air out. Then the next cold morning they'll look flat.

The pressure I use is whatever the reading is when the tyres are warm and working.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 18:30

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 18:30
Rob,

Assuming the tyres are hot when you wish to adjust them, use hot pressure readings. I agree with the comments above that a few psi difference won't matter a great deal, unless you are driving on really soft sand, then it may.

What your "target" pressure will be will depend on what sort of surface you are driving on.

As a ballpark, try 28psi on firm, or gravel based tracks.
18psi on sand. If the going gets really tough, you can deflate them further, but I have never been below 12psi on soft sand and then I am driving fairly slow.

Now removing all technical issues, consider this.
On a trip along the Oodnadatta Track and down the Borefield road, I was towing my camper and had the tyre pressures at 28psi. Our friends in a same vintage Jack, but not towing anything, left their tyres at normal highway pressures.

Guess who got the puncture and totally destroyed a tyre?
Yep....It was ME.
Just goes to show, bleep happens:-))
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Reply By: T-Ribby - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 18:37

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2007 at 18:37
Hi Rob, I don't worry too much about whether the tyres are hot or cold because I reduce the pressure "by" rather than "to". eg for shingle/rough roads -8psi, for sand -18psi.
Airing back up is the same and the pressures tend to be within a psi or two.
Keep it simple.
cheers
T.R.
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